Jenna Cody :
Is Taiwan a real China?
No, and with the exception of a few intervening decades - here’s the part that’ll surprise you - it never has been.
This’ll blow your mind too: that it never has been doesn’t matter.
So let’s start with what doesn’t actually matter.
Until the 1600s, Taiwan was indigenous. Indigenous Taiwanese are not Chinese, they’re Austronesian. Then it was a Dutch colony (note: I do not say “it was Dutch”, I say it was a Dutch colony). Then it was taken over by Ming loyalists at the end of the Ming dynasty (the Ming loyalists were breakaways, not a part of the new Qing court. Any overlap in Ming rule and Ming loyalist conquest of Taiwan was so brief as to be inconsequential).
Only then, in the late 1600s, was it taken over by the Chinese (Qing). But here’s the thing, it was more like a colony of the Qing, treated as - to use Emma Teng’s wording in Taiwan’s Imagined Geography - a barrier or barricade keeping the ‘real’ Qing China safe. In fact, the Qing didn’t even want Taiwan at first, the emperor called it “a ball of mud beyond the pale of civilization”. Prior to that, and to a great extent at that time, there was no concept on the part of China that Taiwan was Chinese, even though Chinese immigrants began moving to Taiwan under Dutch colonial rule (mostly encouraged by the Dutch, to work as laborers). When the Spanish landed in the north of Taiwan, it was the Dutch, not the Chinese, who kicked them out.
Under Qing colonial rule - and yes, I am choosing my words carefully - China only controlled the Western half of Taiwan. They didn’t even have maps for the eastern half. That’s how uninterested in it they were. I can’t say that the Qing controlled “Taiwan”, they only had power over part of it.
Note that the Qing were Manchu, which at the time of their conquest had not been a part of China: China itself essentially became a Manchu imperial holding, and Taiwan did as well, once they were convinced it was not a “ball of mud” but actually worth taking. Taiwan was not treated the same way as the rest of “Qing China”, and was not administered as a province until (I believe) 1887. So that’s around 200 years of Taiwan being a colony of the Qing.
What happened in the late 19th century to change China’s mind? Japan. A Japanese ship was shipwrecked in eastern Taiwan in the 1870s, and the crew was killed by hostile indigenous people in what is known as the Mudan Incident. A Japanese emissary mission went to China to inquire about what could be done, only to be told that China had no control there and if they went to eastern Taiwan, they did so at their own peril. China had not intended to imply that Taiwan wasn’t theirs, but they did. Japan - and other foreign powers, as France also attempted an invasion - were showing an interest in Taiwan, so China decided to cement its claim, started mapping the entire island, and made it a province.
So, I suppose for a decade or so Taiwan was a part of China. A China that no longer exists.
It remained a province until 1895, when it was ceded to Japan after the (first) Sino-Japanese War. Before that could happen, Taiwan declared itself a Republic, although it was essentially a Qing puppet state (though the history here is interesting - correspondence at the time indicates that the leaders of this ‘Republic of Taiwan’ considered themselves Chinese, and the tiger flag hints at this as well. However, the constitution was a very republican document, not something you’d expect to see in Qing-era China.) That lasted for less than a year, when the Japanese took it by force.
This is important for two reasons - the first is that some interpretations of IR theory state that when a colonial holding is released, it should revert to the state it was in before it was taken as a colony. In this case, that would actually be The Republic of Taiwan, not Qing-era China. Secondly, it puts to rest all notions that there was no Taiwan autonomy movement prior to 1947.
In any case, it would be impossible to revert to its previous state, as the government that controlled it - the Qing empire - no longer exists. The current government of China - the PRC - has never controlled it.
After the Japanese colonial era, there is a whole web of treaties and agreements that do not satisfactorily settle the status of Taiwan. None of them actually do so - those which explicitly state that Taiwan is to be given to the Republic of China (such as the Cairo declaration) are non-binding. Those that are binding do not settle the status of Taiwan (neither the treaty of San Francisco nor the Treaty of Taipei definitively say that Taiwan is a part of China, or even which China it is - the Treaty of Taipei sets out what nationality the Taiwanese are to be considered, but that doesn’t determine territorial claims). Treaty-wise, the status of Taiwan is “undetermined”.
Under more modern interpretations, what a state needs to be a state is…lessee…a contiguous territory, a government, a military, a currency…maybe I’m forgetting something, but Taiwan has all of it. For all intents and purposes it is independent already.
In fact, in the time when all of these agreements were made, the Allied powers weren’t as sure as you might have learned about what to do with Taiwan. They weren’t a big fan of Chiang Kai-shek, didn’t want it to go Communist, and discussed an Allied trusteeship (which would have led to independence) or backing local autonomy movements (which did exist). That it became what it did - “the ROC” but not China - was an accident (as Hsiao-ting Lin lays out in Accidental State).
In fact, the KMT knew this, and at the time the foreign minister (George Yeh) stated something to the effect that they were aware they were ‘squatters’ in Taiwan.
Since then, it’s true that the ROC claims to be the rightful government of Taiwan, however, that hardly matters when considering the future of Taiwan simply because they have no choice. To divest themselves of all such claims (and, presumably, change their name) would be considered by the PRC to be a declaration of formal independence. So that they have not done so is not a sign that they wish to retain the claim, merely that they wish to avoid a war.
It’s also true that most Taiwanese are ethnically “Han” (alongside indigenous and Hakka, although Hakka are, according to many, technically Han…but I don’t think that’s relevant here). But biology is not destiny: what ethnicity someone is shouldn’t determine what government they must be ruled by.
Through all of this, the Taiwanese have evolved their own culture, identity and sense of history. They are diverse in a way unique to Taiwan, having been a part of Austronesian and later Hoklo trade routes through Southeast Asia for millenia. Now, one in five (I’ve heard one in four, actually) Taiwanese children has a foreign parent. The Taiwanese language (which is not Mandarin - that’s a KMT transplant language forced on Taiwanese) is gaining popularity as people discover their history. Visiting Taiwan and China, it is clear where the cultural differences are, not least in terms of civic engagement. This morning, a group of legislators were removed after a weekend-long pro-labor hunger strike in front of the presidential palace. They were not arrested and will not be. Right now, a group of pro-labor protesters is lying down on the tracks at Taipei Main Station to protest the new labor law amendments.
This would never be allowed in China, but Taiwanese take it as a fiercely-guarded basic right.
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Now, as I said, none of this matters.
What matters is self-determination. If you believe in democracy, you believe that every state (and Taiwan does fit the definition of a state) that wants to be democratic - that already is democratic and wishes to remain that way - has the right to self-determination. In fact, every nation does. You cannot be pro-democracy and also believe that it is acceptable to deprive people of this right, especially if they already have it.
Taiwan is already a democracy. That means it has the right to determine its own future. Period.
Even under the ROC, Taiwan was not allowed to determine its future. The KMT just arrived from China and claimed it. The Taiwanese were never asked if they consented. What do we call it when a foreign government arrives in land they had not previously governed and declares itself the legitimate governing power of that land without the consent of the local people? We call that colonialism.
Under this definition, the ROC can also be said to be a colonial power in Taiwan. They forced Mandarin - previously not a language native to Taiwan - onto the people, taught Chinese history, geography and culture, and insisted that the Taiwanese learn they were Chinese - not Taiwanese (and certainly not Japanese). This was forced on them. It was not chosen. Some, for awhile, swallowed it. Many didn’t. The independence movement only grew, and truly blossomed after democratization - something the Taiwanese fought for and won, not something handed to them by the KMT.
So what matters is what the Taiwanese want, not what the ROC is forced to claim. I cannot stress this enough - if you do not believe Taiwan has the right to this, you do not believe in democracy.
And poll after poll shows it: Taiwanese identify more as Taiwanese than Chinese (those who identify as both primarily identify as Taiwanese, just as I identify as American and Armenian, but primarily as American. Armenian is merely my ethnicity). They overwhelmingly support not unifying with China. The vast majority who support the status quo support one that leads to eventual de jure independence, not unification. The status quo is not - and cannot be - an endgame (if only because China has declared so, but also because it is untenable). Less than 10% want unification. Only a small number (a very small minority) would countenance unification in the future…even if China were to democratize.
The issue isn’t the incompatibility of the systems - it’s that the Taiwanese fundamentally do not see themselves as Chinese.
A change in China’s system won’t change that. It’s not an ethnic nationalism - there is no ethnic argument for Taiwan (or any nation - didn’t we learn in the 20th century what ethnicity-based nation-building leads to? Nothing good). It’s not a jingoistic or xenophobic nationalism - Taiwanese know that to be dangerous. It’s a nationalism based on shared identity, culture, history and civics. The healthiest kind of nationalism there is. Taiwan exists because the Taiwanese identify with it. Period.
There are debates about how long the status quo should go on, and what we should risk to insist on formal recognition. However, the question of whether or not to be Taiwan, not China…
…well, that’s already settled.
The Taiwanese have spoken and they are not Chinese.
Whatever y’all think about that doesn’t matter. That’s what they want, and if you believe in self-determination you will respect it.
If you don’t, good luck with your authoritarian nonsense, but Taiwan wants nothing to do with it.
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1.
Taiwan is not in Thailand!
台灣不是在泰國裡面的!
2.
Taiwan is a beautiful island located off the coast of Mainland China.
台灣是一個美麗的島嶼,位於中國大陸沿海。
3.
Taiwan is in an earthquake zone, so every year it experiences many earthquakes.
台灣處於地震帶,每年都會經歷多次地震。
4.
The central and eastern parts of the island are covered in mountain ranges.
該島的中心地區和東部地區都覆蓋著山脈。
5.
The western part of the island is flatter, and so that is where most of the population lives.
該島的西部地區比較平坦,因此這是大部分人口居住的地方。
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Climate.
氣候。
7.
Taiwan has a tropical climate.
台灣是熱帶氣候。
8.
Summers are hot and humid.
夏天炎熱潮濕。
9.
And every summer, several typhoons pass through Taiwan.
每年夏天,會有幾個颱風經過台灣。
10.
And Winters in Taiwan are kind of cold.
台灣的冬天有點冷。
11.
People.
人。
12.
Taiwan has a population of 23 million.
台灣有2300萬人口。
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Most of the population are Han Chinese.
大多數人口是漢族人。
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Within the Han Chinese, many are descendants of the Hoklo people.
在漢族人中,許多人是閩南人的後裔。
15.
And many are also descendants of the Hakka people.
許多人也是客家人的後裔。
16.
And the rest are descendants of the waishengren, who came to Taiwan during the Chinese Civil War.
其餘的都是在中國內戰期間來到台灣的外生人的後裔。
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Taiwan is also home to many indigenous people(s).
台灣也是許多原住民的家園。
18.
There are a total of 16 indigenous tribes in Taiwan.
台灣共有16個原住民種族部落。
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Language.
語言。
20.
The official language of Taiwan is Mandarin Chinese.
台灣的官方語言是國語。
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And the writing system is Traditional Chinese.
書寫系統是繁體中文。
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Apart from Mandarin, many Taiwanese people also speak Taiwanese Hokkien, also known as, simply, Taiwanese.
除了普通話外,許多台灣人也講閩南語,簡稱台灣人。
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And some also speak Hakka.
有些人也會說客家話。
24.
Many Taiwanese people are also very good at English.
許多台灣人也非常擅長英語。
25.
In fact, a lot of people love to learn English.
事實上,很多人都喜歡學習英語。
26.
And a lot of people also love to watch gelunbufayinku.
而且很多人也喜歡看哥倫布發音庫。
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Attractions.
旅遊景點。
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There are many things to do and places to visit in Taiwan.
在台灣有許多事情和景點可以去遊玩。
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For instance: Taipei 101.
例如:台北101。
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Taipei 101 is one of the tallest buildings in the world.
台北101大樓是世界上最高的建築之一。
31.
The National Palace Museum houses many national treasures.
國立故宮博物館藏有許多國寶。
32.
Taiwan night markets offer delicious Taiwanese snacks.
台灣夜市提供美味的台灣小吃。
33.
Sun Moon Lake offers beautiful scenery.
日月潭有很漂亮風景。
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Ximending is vibrant neighborhood that is great for shopping!
西門町是一個充滿活力的社區,非常適合購物!
35.
Taiwan numba one!
台灣NO.1!
36.
Let’s go over what I love about Taiwan.
讓我們回顧一下我對台灣的熱愛。
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Taiwanese people are extremely friendly, nice, polite, and hospitable.
台灣人非常友善、善良、有禮貌、熱情好客。
38.
I’m always amazed at how friendly and nice people here are.
我總是對這裡友好和善良的人感到驚訝。
39.
I think Taiwanese has the nicest people in the world.
我認為台灣人擁有世界上最好的人。
40.
The subway system here is very clean and efficient.
這裡的地鐵系統非常乾淨、高效。
41.
Taiwanese cuisine is delicious.
台灣菜很美味。
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Taiwanese bubble tea is world famous. The pearls are chewy and its just great, you gotta try it.
台灣的珍珠奶茶聞名世界。珍珠很耐嚼而且真的很棒,你們一定要嘗試看看。
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Living in Taiwan is also very safe and very convenient. There are restaurants and convenience stores everywhere.
住在台灣也很安全、也很方便。到處都有餐廳和便利店。
44.
Taiwan has a national health insurance program.
台灣有國家健康保險計劃。
45.
It provides universal coverage.
健保提供全面的照護。
46.
Healthcare here is cheap, efficient, and of high quality. Everybody loves it here!
這裡的醫療保健便宜、高效、高品質。每個人都對健保讚賞!
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